Monday, April 19, 2010
flight 18 kinda crashed for us
Hmmmmm. Kind of reminds me of a take-off (no pun intended, but it sounded better than rip-off) of "take off with us" & "air-otica" only not done so well.
Larry & I watched this morning & these things came to mind - IN TERMS OF THE OMFA PROJECT:
1) were there spectaters/audience?
2) if the answer to the above is yes, then were they participating? where were they?
3) thses folks look like actors/performers.which we are not.
We didn't relate it so much with facilitating the OMFA guests painting. I don't know, dude, we just weren't that into it.
Larry & I watched this morning & these things came to mind - IN TERMS OF THE OMFA PROJECT:
1) were there spectaters/audience?
2) if the answer to the above is yes, then were they participating? where were they?
3) thses folks look like actors/performers.which we are not.
We didn't relate it so much with facilitating the OMFA guests painting. I don't know, dude, we just weren't that into it.
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Firstly...good post Jane. I like that you are looking at the material. It terms of the video that you have posted and the one I posted....they engage the audience very differently and are even written differently to do so. I am assuming that "air-otica" is a Broadway musical adapted for film, so it even gets a little more tricky in describing audience position in relation to the performance/performers. In the video you posted...the characters are well defined and interact with each other...they are self contained and presented in the black box (or television box) that is traditional theatre...audience seated...stage in front with a performance contained. In Flight 18, the actors roles were more similar to a "job" (such as a customer service rep at a ticket counter)...there roles were less defined and interacted blurring the lines between actor and participant. I wasn't entirely enthused about Flight 18 either, I didn't post it because I liked it...i posted because of that relationship of interaction. I think the two were so different in structure, it would be hard to make the argument that it "was less well done." It is what it is. I wasn't there and a lot of our observations are on the poorly done video preview. I wasn't excited about the premise of the piece either. I think what you have posted is a very like-able form of theatre that is very entertaining and pleasing to a majority of people---this is why they call them show stopping numbers....we completely lack the resources and determination of the players that one of those numbers would entail esp. with regards to rehearsal time...and frankly, i don't posses the desire to direct something of that nature (but someone else in the group may).
ReplyDeleteas for the questions in regard to our audience... i have some ideas that i will be presenting to the group on Wednesday, as the project as taken a slight turn (they have slightly changed our involvement)...they are refusing to let us film anything that we do. The new direction, i feel is a better approach to meet our concerns as a group, meeting there's and allowing more creativity from each of the members.
One other thing of note in the Flight 18 piece was that the audience is guided (as if on a tour - or as you would at an actual airport)and moved through a physical space...this allows for intermittent transitions between traditional presentation and interaction. The museum had talked about making only certain areas be the performance areas, an idea I was not fond of.
Dear Larry and Jane,
ReplyDeleteDid you participate in this Flight 18?
Are you part of prophet Reeves' new movement?
will someone please help be saved from all the rot, all the dead, all the dead?
love and work and disgust and more work,
-J.D.
Reeves-
ReplyDeletei am not happy with this bullshit.
your idea of the "interaction" is not interesting; it's old and boring and dead.
fuck your limited resources, or rehearsal time, and the fact that they won't let you film.
This shows who is really in control.
The artist, if there is one, is a slave and a dead one at that.
my heart and soul are truly sad.
Pessoa would spit on your shoe and then lock himself in a room without a view.
Artaud's eyes would leak white pus at the sight of this drudgery and tedium.
Fuck.
Jeremiah Reeves (died March 28, 1958) was a 22-year-old African American, former jazz drummer, executed by the state of Alabama by electrocution for two rapes he allegedly committed in 1952. His actual guilt was frequently questioned (although the United States Supreme Court twice rejected his appeals).
ReplyDeleteReeves' execution sparked a massive protest, among whose leaders was Rev. Martin Luther King, Jr., as many[who?] saw him as a victim of racism and injustice.
Reeves claimed that he was forced to sit in the Alabama electric chair Yellow Mama a night before he confessed. He later was put to death in the very same chair.
Pessoa was a slave...he recognized that fact-
ReplyDelete“…I’ll be living quietly in a little house somewhere in the suburbs, enjoying a peaceful existence not writing the book I’m not writing now and, so as to continue not doing so, I will come up with different excuses from the ones I use now to avoid actually confronting myself. Or else I’ll be interned in a poor house, content with my utter failure, mingling with the riffraff who believed they were geniuses when in fact they were just beggars with dreams, mixing with the anonymous mass of people who had neither the strength to triumph nor the power to turn there defeat into victories.” - Fernando Pessoa, The Book of Disquiet
As for participation...my idea and a analysis of someone else's performance are two totally different things....I haven't begun discussing my ideas...im not even sure what "my ideas" means, as nothing is mine, everything has been done and the world has been zombies for my entire existence.
The artist is surely a slave, he has to be, it is his condition...as you said..you don't want to be one...neither do I.
I would like to turn my defeat into a victory however...how this is possible...i don't know. It is already in some respect, the knowledge of knowing beyond the mask of the unaware and smiling.
I would love to have you here Szalla...the time will be soon.
By the way, i love the biography of Jeremiah Reeves. Every time someone googles my name they are confronted with the fact that "Jeremiah Reeves" raped two white women. I like to think that the people who continue to my website despite that are somewhat kinky and lewd to begin with. Then I know what to expect ;)
Reeves-
ReplyDeleteYou complete fuck-wit! You know I could go completely intellectual on your sorry ass and the bull would gouge out your pretty eyes before feasting on your nut sack, but don't go "Book of Disquiet" on me because I got that shit in my quiver, savy?
Look...I know where we both stand in the game and the current poor house, so I think its best we lay off the fucking simiilllleeees and meetafooorrsss OK Meester REEEVES?
So what now?
I finally read the biographies of your little posse and I must say Zion is the bomb! I dig him the best! He seems to be the only one who has his shit together and good lookin' ya-boot.
So we talked and you still haven't come straight....so what's the skinny besides my 110 pound skel-ton frame of rotting poet?
i am here right now and not sleeping meester reeves....i'm wating....
Thank you..."Henry Rollins" aka Zion is the bomb. As for the plain and straight...
ReplyDeleteI would love to have you here to do something..but i cant fund that endeavor.
Im about to be evicted if i don't find rent money, have to have shoulder surgery next month...then i will be a one armed man.
Call me.
i,m whating
ReplyDeletei.m watting
i am whiting pus out my eyes my eyes
waiting
for goorrrden for goddot for dogs and volcanoes for reeves oh for reeves O Superman!
This meeting that you just spoke of...i have it on film...it was the last meeting...i haven't had the time to post it...but it is exactly what you spoke of
ReplyDeletethe lady is sleepin' in the one room apartment so...well there it is stormy in the bathroom:P
ReplyDeletemy voice just carries and in this little place...well I will just do my best...after this post I will go to my gmail chat deal? I think it is something i have let me go to gmail now....dig?
coolio
ReplyDeleteChrist! Bubu!
ReplyDeleteI looked at this chick's (your) profile and well....i am waiting to hear about Lady Gaga or Urban Outfitters!
what else can i say?
Welcome to the land of the dead with the rest of us!
Sad!
-J.D.